Katie Gaven is an actress, a six-time published playwright, and a director who has recently graduated from the University of North Carolina School of the Arts. This year, her immersive thriller 00:45:00 makes its international debut at the Edinburgh Fringe – and The Recs is delighted she has taken time to chat with us about the show.

Hello Katie, thank you for joining us. I’m going to plunge in by saying that because 00:45:00 is a thriller, we are going to be careful how much we can discuss without giving away spoilers. But we can say that the title refers to 45 minutes of time – 45 minutes of real time, in How much of the premise can you tell our readers what that 45 minutes of time relates to?

Well, do you have 45 minutes? Just kidding 🙂 Here’s what I can tell you:

Five people walk into a room, and 45 minutes later, only one of them will make it out alive.

DUN DUN DUUUN!!

00:45:00 is an experiment that plays out in real time through the lens of a scientist pursuing an answer to the philosophical question: is one person’s life more valuable than another’s, and how can anyone make that decision?

OKAY… THAT’S ALL I CAN TELL YOU FOR NOW!

 

There seems to be a lot of theatre currently that deploys a countdown or a time limit of sorts at the core of the production. Famously, 2:22: A Ghost Story is one example; I recently also saw a Hamlet that was counting down to the point where the iceberg hit the Titanic! As a writer, how have you been influenced by such works? And what is it about a time limit that injects such jeopardy for an audience?

I love all kinds of countdowns (ie. the one in 2:22: A Ghost Story and the countdown in High School Musical when they’re waiting for the New Years Eve ball to drop), so I’ve definitely taken a lot of inspiration from other stories that utilize a time element!

I recently saw a production of Oedipus (heads up – it’s an awkward show to see with your family), and they used a countdown clock in the background throughout the entire show. Something I learned from watching this production was how to keep the clock and the time element present in the background, while still ensuring that the characters and their relationships/dynamics hold the main focus in the foreground of the story. I think it’s really important to be intentional about when to draw the audience’s attention to the countdown, without letting that element completely overtake the story.

I also LOVE horror movies, so I really like how countdowns can create this undeniable sense of dread in those subjected to them. It feels impossible to watch a timer tick down and not obsess over what’s going to happen when the time finally runs out.

 

Underpinning 00:45:00 are seriously weighty issues such as morality, personal responsibility, groupthink, life and death – but it’s not presented in a way that feels There’s no hiding behind a proscenium arch – this is immersive and engages with the audience. Can you explain how that interaction with the public works within the show?

Well, to be totally honest, we’re still working it out! We’ve had a few public performances, but our script has changed a bit since then, and we know the audience dynamic will be very different at the Fringe! Our play begins with a scientist speaking directly to the audience about the experiment. Dr. Wilison acts as the bridge between the audience and the participants, asking them for access to their thoughts, opinions, and empathy while the clinical trial plays out. The audience assumes the role of active participants by being continually included and prodded to take action by the main character. I’m hoping that our Fringe audiences will be all-in on the immersive elements! There are a lot of twists and turns throughout the play that should catch our audiences pretty off guard, but if you want to find out more, you’ll just have to come see the show!!

This is your first Edinburgh Fringe – and I’m sure you’ve chatted to theatre makers from the University of North Carolina School of the Arts who have brought shows to Edinburgh previously – what I’ll say is that Fringe audiences, by their very nature of bringing people from across the world together, will vary hugely from day to day across your Sometimes they will be inhibited – other times, good luck to you keeping the ‘Chatty Kathys’ on track. Is that an element of the show that you’ve planned for, have anticipated?

I fear I am, myself, a Chatty Kathy, so as the director/writer of this piece, I think it’s really important to utilize whatever kind of audience interaction we get. I think the key is to be specific about what success looks like for each character, and understanding how each piece of audience participation might affect that journey. Since most of the interaction is between the audience and Dr. Wilison, it was especially important to establish a general road map for her, so she can help steer and shape the extent of participation. Doing so helps clarify what degree of feedback she might encourage, while still maintaining control. If we can do this well, we hope to successfully manage the Chatty Kathys, without shutting them down. No matter what, it’s our overall goal to make the most out of every bit of participation we can get!

 

I believe when you’ve tested the show already, you’ve asked audiences to sign an NDA! Are reviewers allowed to opt out of that? (Asking for a friend)

OUR NDA’S ARE LEGALLY BINDING.

Kidding!!

Yes, we will absolutely grant reviewers immunity from this NDA, although we are hoping to avoid spoilers for future audiences as much as possible in all of our publicity and reviews.

 

Given that audiences will bring their own biases to the show, and it features, I believe, somewhat dystopian choices, will the immersive nature of 00:45:00 mean that some performances will not end the way that you anticipated or wanted?

We’re definitely anticipating a bunch of differing opinions from the audience which is super exciting! Although the show is immersive, the last moment of the play is crafted to lead our audiences to what we hope they will be able to take away from seeing the show, so the ending will most likely stay the same, but the journey we take to get there will definitely change from one audience to the next.

 

The Thomas S. Kenan Institute for the Arts has supported your Fringe journey this How important are arts bodies like these in helping artists develop? If they were not backing you, would you be able to do Edinburgh? Does it feel harder to get ideas to stage, in general?

Oh my gosh, art funding organizations like the Thomas S. Kenan Institute for the Arts are absolutely invaluable! There is no way we could’ve done this without the financial support and incredible collaboration that we’ve been provided with!

Getting ANY new work off the page and onto the stage is a huge challenge, and for most young playwrights it would be impossible without this kind of help. We feel so unbelievably lucky to be partnered with the Kenan Institute and are doing everything we can to make them proud!!

 

The Fringe is such a unique experience, and you are about to be part of the history of this global arts Can we ask what your biggest hope of taking part is, and what is your worst fear?

Oof – this is a great question! My biggest hope is to get people to engage with my play so that I can really learn from each of the incredibly diverse audiences that we’re hoping to get! I would also just love to broaden my own artistic experiences by interacting with as many fellow creatives as possible, and by seeing every piece of new work I can while I’m at the Fringe.

My worst fear? Something goes wrong with our travel and the cast doesn’t show up, or no one comes to our show…or the countdown clock doesn’t work!!!!!

EEEEK!

Mostly, I’m just so incredibly excited for this opportunity to bring my show to the Fringe! I’ve never been to the Edinburgh Festival before, and I can already tell that it’s going to be a once in a lifetime kind of experience!!

00:45:00 Tickets

 

00:45:00 runs at Venue 45 at theSpace @ Venue 45 and Stephenson Theatre at theSpace @ Surgeons' Hall (check website for details) between the 17 and 28 Aug (not 23 Aug)

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